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March 12, 2016

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AnneJ

I'm starting to worry that the protesters are now just part of the show. I really am surprised no one has been shot yet. Trump's fanboys have got to have a gun fetish. It is like this has nothing to do with electing a president anymore and everything to do with being part of a violent freak show. Trump may be the Republican party's Frankenstein monster, but now he's creating thousands of monsters himself. And just like the Republican party takes no responsibility for the rise of Trump, he takes no responsibility for the actions of his followers.

Bob

Will Trump's troops take to Sanders rallies? That will be an interesting test of whether they actually see Bernie as an enemy. It won't surprise me if they don't. After all, he's against the Establishment too. According to news pieces there are significant numbers that support either candidate. In Michigan that dynamic displayed itself in interesting ways:

"Dearborn, Michigan — home to the largest Arab-American enclave in the country — resoundingly backed both the first major Jewish candidate to run for president, and a reality TV celebrity infamous for his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the United States."

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/top-arab-american-city-backs-jewish-socialist-man-muslim-ban

At least in some places, today's populism is based on alienating economic policies more than racism or identity politics.

Please don't mistake me for a conspiracy theorist, I only speculate: The Trump campaign knew that holding a rally at a state college would result in unpleasantness. Indeed, Trump has been priming the pump at several preceding rallies. Why would they do it in Chicago? Could it be a message to the Establishment that if Trump is eliminated at the convention they're likely to see the 1968 Democratic fiasco repeated at the 2016 Republican National Convention In Cleveland?

David & Son of Duff

An America-based British commentator put it this way on a discussion programme:

"One audience member asked if he wasn’t reminiscent of Hitler. I replied that while his rhetoric is extreme and his policies wrong-headed, some of his positions are surprisingly moderate and it is hard to identify proof of personal prejudice. Moreover, many people are supporting him precisely because they are tired of being called “fascist” simply because they support controls on immigration. He’s riding a backlash against political correctness – and the violence in Chicago is only likely to increase sympathy for him. In the Trump imagination, Middle America is besieged by radical, anti-American voices trying to drown out alternative opinion. Shutting down a Trump rally won’t silence Trumpism. On the contrary, it affirms it. Why does the Left continue to make this mistake?"

He went on to sum it up thus:

"Trump is a blowhard. His views are unconstitutional, illiberal and sometimes they trigger hate. But he did not take America to war in Iraq on flimsy evidence, establish Guantanamo in contravention of human rights law, licence the torture of enemy combatants, oversee the gargantuan NSA data-gathering operation, launch a dirty war of drone strikes against both terrorists and those unfortunate enough to live near them, undermine the religious freedoms of employers who do not want to subsidise the sex lives of their workers, overrule the states’ wishes on marriage, compel citizens to buy healthcare products or deport thousands of illegals through aggressive round-ups. No: these things were done by “moderate” Republicans and “liberal” Democrats."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12191998/Donald-Trump-is-not-a-fascist.html

The Dark Avenger

"Subsidies the sex lives of their workers." Are they talking about birth control or ED drugs? Because I know of no objection to the latter.

David & Son of Duff

"ED drugs"!?
I'd never heard of those, DA, I had to look it up. You're familiar with them, I assume!

Bob

"overrule the states’ wishes on marriage"

At the time the SCOTUS ruled on Obergefell there were same-sex marriage bans only in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee that had been upheld by a federal appeals court. The anti-gay side lost in an essentially democratic process.

Peter G

Guess where I am right this minute? Skokie.

The Dark Avenger

Only from the ads, David.

The Dark Avenger

According to Mark Levin and fellow conservatives, The ACA was shoved down the throats of the American people, despite being passed by Congress, and signed into law by the Kenyan Usurper.

Of course, only in conservative world is a drop in the % of people without medical insurance a flaw, not a feature of American life.

Bob

They never let up on the spin. It's all they have at this point.

Bob

Give my regards to the far north side.

David & Son of Duff

I believe you, DA, thousands wouldn't!

The Dark Avenger

That's because you're not easy to fool, like a Republicsn primary voter, David.

Peter G

He did not do any of those things. He only promised to do worse.

Peter G

If we are looking for historical comparisons Trump is no Hitler. Hasn't the guts. He's more of a Oswald Moseley type fascist and like him will probably head off to a life of comparitive luxury after throwing all of his supporters under the proverbial bus. Niced to see Moseley's kids are still strring it up in Britain.

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