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June 27, 2016


So unlike their presumptive candidate who actually endorsed the Brexit.

Gotta love the consistent inconsistency of the Conservatives. I thought they were for this? Their nominee is. If it had failed, the right wingers and Bernie Bros would be throwing a hissy fit over his interfering in the business of other countries like the power hungry despot he is. I know that our host does not consider them true conservatives, but on the other hand, you can't spell "conservative" without"con".

I thought Trump was claiming that Obama had been TOO forceful in his warnings. So it's Obama's fault, but it's a beautiful beautiful beautiful thing, unless it screws up international financial markets.

Trump can always tell which way the winds are blowing by looking into a mirror.

And if he had done that, they would have freaked out. Just like they vote against their own bills when the President agrees with them.

Yep, it's damned if does, damned if he don't. I hate those infantile jackasses.

According to our conservative commentator from the other side of the pond, Obama threatened the Brits if they voted to leave the EU.

It's always Obama's fault.



Even if what Obama does is successful, the Far Right will claim it a failure and still Obama's fault.



Anything outside of Obama's control - as though Obama has brainwashed the entirety of the British voting public - they blame on him anyway as though he does.

The point isn't to highlight errors or bring about reforms.

The point is to accuse. The point is to blame. The point is to paint him as a failure, now and forever.


Do you have a freaking link?

Yes, which one of the amusing and predicable idiots came up with this?

I thought this sounded like a piece from The Onion when I read it earlier today. Well done, PM!

Yeah, link!

"But of course President Obama did say something. Indeed he said plenty. He did advise, lecture, and lead."

He sure did and as a confirmed 'Brexiteer' I was delighted because his threat to place Britain at "the back of the queue" if we had the temerity to leave gave my side its first impetus. You see, we don't like foreign leaders telling us we're, er, 'uppity'!

You bought into the Daily Mail's version of things, I see.

President Barack Obama told Britain today that it would have to 'go to the back of the queue' if it leaves the European Union, then tries to negotiate its own trade deal with the United States.
A US-UK trade agreement is not going to happen 'any time soon,' Obama said during a joint news conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron.
‘Not because we don’t have a special relationship but because given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries rather than trying to do piecemeal trade agreements, which is hugely inefficient,' the U.S. leader said.
Obama faced a furious backlash overseas this morning over what has been called a 'downright hypocritical' push for Britain to stay in the European Union.
In a highly controversial intervention in the EU referendum campaign, Obama pleaded with British voters in a local newspaper and then the press conference not to cut ties with Brussels.
'The United States wants a strong United Kingdom as a partner, and the United Kingdom is at its best when it is helping to lead a strong Europe,' Obama said during a news conference at Britain's Foreign and Commonwealth Office.
In his op-ed Obama also invoked the spirit of the Second World War by claiming the sacrifice of GIs meant America has a stake in the EU debate and said the decision in June's referendum 'will echo in the prospects of today's generation of Americans as well'.
London Mayor Boris Johnson accused him of making an 'incoherent' and 'inconsistent' argument.
A furious Johnson said this morning: 'The Americans would never contemplate anything like the EU, for themselves or for their neighbors in their own hemisphere. Why should they think it right for us?'

Furor is an interesting way of putting it. And I suppose Mr. Glassy Stare has never heard of NAFTA.

From Breitbart:

Angry Britons have launched a petition calling for U.S. President Barack Obama to be prevented from speaking in the UK parliament on Britain’s forthcoming referendum on European Union (EU) membership.

The petition on the Parliament website, which has so far been signed by over 4,000 people, calls on ministers and MPs to stop Mr Obama using parliament as a platform to tell Britain to stay in the European Union.

If the petition reaches 10,000 signatures the government will be obliged to issue an official response, and if over 100,000 sign it will be considered for debate in parliament.

The Guardian reported last week that the U.S. President is planning a “big, public reach-out” to stop Britain voting the leave the European Union, however there are already signs his interference could backfire.

This Friday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said America had a “profound interest” in a “strong UK staying inside a strong European Union”.

His speech was strongly criticised by Eurosceptics, with Jack Montgomery of campaign group Leave.EU saying: “It might be convenient for John Kerry, who has repeatedly declined to support the UK in the Falklands, for us to be in the EU, but that doesn’t mean it’s good for us.

Typical conservative Brits, afraid of the consequences of free speech.

Pip-pip, old chap. You're the best spokesperson here against conservatism, whether you know it or not.

Of course, DA, you are as right as you ever are! What we Brits should have done is to tremble at the thought of being placed at the back of the queue as the overseer cracks his whip and just done what we were told to do.

Of course, the next time the USA goes off on yet another foreign adventure and looks to allies for support we will gently remind you that, er, sorry and all that but we're at the back of the queue!

Finally, none of the grand political strategists here ever answered my question as to how your fellow citizens would re-act to being invited to join a 'Union of all the Americas' in which sundry Brazilians, Mexicans, Argentinians and the like would have an equal voice in laying down the law?

I'm sorry but we can't hear you because you're at the back of the queue now.

They know all about it benighted commenter. They've got Mississippi and Alabama and more than a few other economically disadvantaged States. All of which get a say in the Federal government.

Where did I say that you Britons should tremble before the American whip?

As for foreign adventures, I don't think that Madame President will be asking for help from a demoralized and confused country.

As for political union of the Americas, that would be nothing like what you have in the EU, although many American employers would welcome low-wage workers from anywhere between the North Pole and Tierra de Fuego, much as British employers welcome Poles and Romanian coming to Albion In search of similar jobs.

Well, thanks for doing most of the heavy lifting for me once again. Tally ho, Old Sport.

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