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December 20, 2016

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Matt

What's truly sad about this is how closely this election cycle is mirroring 1968, with Trump playing the role of a horrible Goldwater/Nixon hybrid. It's hitting the exact same beats--Pundits/Dems thinking recent history/digital progress has buried the Republican party/conservativism, rural/white America feeling ignored by Washington, racial unrest ala the Watts Riots/BLM (I'm not giving the two movements equivalence, but you can bet the average Trump supporter does), a scheming manipulator promising to make things the way they used to be, and Dem/Pundit flailing because they don't get how society could "regress."

My greatest fear is we'll continue living in this time loop and be forced to suffer an equally populist (and thus unsustainable) Democratic President (Bernie? Ellison?) before suffering under another eight years of corporatist economics. (Paul Ryan?)

Matt

"digital" should be "social" in the above.

David & Son of Duff

"A vital institutional check on executive power was peremptorily and triumphantly dismissed", er, by President Obama actually who ignored the Congress and issued 260 Executive Orders, slightly less than 'Dubya'(291) but nowhere near as many as Bill Clinton(364).

Peter G

This may come as a shock but executives are supposed to issue orders, specifically executive orders. It may also come as a shock but it is also easily verifiable that Prime Ministers under parliamentary systems of government have considerably more power to issue such decrees (interpretations of law subject to judicial review) than any president ever had. And they do.

Now if you would be so kind as to point out the SCOTUS order that Obama chose to ignore you might have a case. But there isn't so you don't. Parenthetically I wonder if May is going to ignore the court order to subject Brexit to Parliamentary approval. And if Parliament, the elected representatives of the people, fails to comply with her wishes will she ignore both Courts and Parliament?

The Dark Avenger

When and where did Obama ignore the Congress, old sport? You're just passing along what you've read without doing any checking first, as usual.

Peter G

I wouldn't call it a thin reed on which to hang hopes, by which I mean expecting the institutions of government to guard their prerogatives against encroachment by the executive. History, as you point out, provides examples to the contrary. But it is not sturdy.
The key point of your argument as I see it is whether or not Trump, or the Trump administration will get cover from Courts or Legislatures for what they choose to do. I think that will happen on a case by case basis. Trump will have far greater latitude on foreign affairs but on domestic issues the same minefields of interest persist. He may not be a professional politician but Congress is composed of such and they'll need to get re-elected.

Anne J

All I can say is....drain a swamp, create a sinkhole.

Max

Indeed. In actual fact, Obama tried way too long to placate the Republicans in Congress, before finally realizing - way past when he should have - there was no point in doing so.

Marc McKenzie

Um, David--you do know that the President--any President--is allowed to sign EOs? And that Congress--or at least, Congress beginning in 2011 when the GOP took over the House and was completed with their Senate takeover in 2015--pretty much was engaged in a "block Obama by any f**king means necessary" strategy?

You DO know that, right?

Oh wait...you obviously did not know. Otherwise, you would never have written such a bone stick stone stupid comment.

(Although to be frank, a bone or stick or stone is probably more intelligent than you.)

David & Son of Duff

"And that Congress--or at least, Congress beginning in 2011 when the GOP took over the House and was completed with their Senate takeover in 2015--pretty much was engaged in a "block Obama by any f**king means necessary" strategy?"

Oh, I see, sorry, sorry, you mean the Congress, voted for by all those 'irredeemable' people (dread word!) is obliged to hold hands and chant, "Yes, Sir, no, Sir, three bags full, sir" whilst bending over their desks.

Er, unless it's a Republican president and a Dem Congress, of course!

The Dark Avenger

Very oversimplified, old boy. Senate Republicans refusing to do their. Constitutional duty with regards to the Supreme Court is hardly a refusal to "bend over" as you so charmingly put it. Sorry, but your poor salesmanship again ruins your point, whatever it was.

Even St. Maggie of the Shopkeepers would be appalled at your lack of understanding, and if she hadn't been cremated there'd be a great sound like a coffin going at 200 RPM coming out of Westminster Abbey, or wherever it is that Prime Ministers end up getting buried these days, after one of your squalid screeds here.

Hopes this helps, old bean.

Peter G

How about a parliament that realizes what a Brexit will actually mean?

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